How many other pro-choice people are tired of hearing abortion equated to murdering babies?
Question by hwinnum: How many other pro-choice people are tired of hearing abortion equated to murdering babies?
It is inflammatory speech designed to make pro choice people seem like cold blooded murderers who would just as easily snuff out an infant. I understand that from their viewpoint, abortion is murder, but they fail to understand the pro choice viewpoint that the early term fetus, embryo, blastocyst and fertilized egg, does not have any rights that supercede the mother.
The Bible says “thou shall not murder” (not “kill”), and murder is a legal definition. Killing an enemy soldier and killing in self defense is not murder, In the US, abortion is not defined as murder.
If you believe that abortion is murder, then don’t have one, but allow the rest of us to follow our beliefs. It is not a black and white issue.
Gwennie B: Thank you for explaining things so well to some of the other respondents.
Ken: Do you support stupid and lazy people having children? What will happen to those kids?
Mommanuke: Obama is the one using “divide and conquer” He’s fomenting class warfare by dividing Americans into the “rich” or the “working class”.
WACO: Although I support abortion rights, I also support the Catholic Church in its complaint against Obamacare. You questioned the separation of church and state – that means the state should not impose laws that cause an unnecessary burden on religion. This isn’t the first time the gov’t has felt justified in violating religious beliefs ( http://naissucks.com/wordpress/?tag=wisconsin-prosecuting-amish) , it’s just the most noticeable.
Answer by Gwennie B
EDIT: @Dick Lewiston: Regardless of personal views on abortion, being linguistically accurate is important. Feticide is not the same as neonaticide, which is not the same as infanticide. People who muddle up the terms and talk about “killing a baby” are being ambiguous- are they talking about abortion, or are they talking about infanticide?
EDIT: @Ken: “Abortion is nothing but an after the fact method of birth control because two people are either too lazy or too stupid to have protected sex, 99.9 percent of the time.”
Actually, a majority- 54%- of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html )
“Would you kill your 6 year old to keep a secret or becasue it might embarrass you or make you uncomfortable for a few months?”
Your six-year old is not currently holed up in your uterus.
“To me, the mother does not have the right to kill off a child without regard for that child’s father, or grandparents that might take it and love it as their own or give it up for adoption.”
Adoption is an alternative to parenting, not to pregnancy and childbirth. The only alternative to pregnancy and childbirth is abortion. In other words, if a woman wants an abortion, adoption solves nothing- unless she is allowed to have an abortion (and then the father or grandparents may certainly try to gestate the removed tissue to term if they want, although I think they might have a little trouble in that regard). Nobody has the right to force a woman to act as an incubator against her will.
EDIT: @RockHunter: Actually, there were few or no laws against abortion prior to “quickening” (when the fetus can first be felt to move, around 5 months) in America, until doctors began to push for criminalization in the 1820’s. With their campaign, it remained illegal in most places until 1973, when Roe v. Wade repealed laws that criminalized abortion.
In addition, the Roe v. Wade ruling built on the 1963 ruling Griswold v. Connecticut, which struck down a Connecticut law banning birth control- that’s where the Supreme Court first believed a right to privacy was enumerated in the Constitution.
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